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Something totally different: My new Friend Bing Chat

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Something totally different: In various conversations, in social media, and also here on WordPress, I very often see a negative attitude towards ChatGpd and Bing Chat. It is by no means my intention to convert anyone to anything, but I find it a pity that opportunities that are offered to us today are not being used. [1] I would therefore like to try to clarify one or the other aspect. Maybe there is something helpful in there.

Despite all possible objections, fears, and even attempts to ban ChatGPT & Co, quite a hype has already begun in some circles of the economy.

AI stocks charts


The potential of AI shares is reflected very well on the stock exchange.


Basically

Each tool is as good as we are able to handle it. Even the best food processor is useless to me if I can’t tell flour from semolina. And just like in real life, with AI too we get answers according to our questions – and also our relationship to the one we ask.


One of my favorite painters, Huang Binhong, wrote in a text on landscape painting: “Before I start painting a landscape, I make friends with the mountains around me“. A wonderful attitude that can also be applied to AI and I do too. Instead of saying, “Text me about xyz” I would type: “Good morning dear Bing! I have a challenging job today and I’m curious how you can help me with it. It’s about xyz and I’m mainly interested in A, B, C. What can you tell me about that?” Now comes a generated text and, let’s assume, it’s not optimal. Then I write, “Thanks bing, that helps me a lot, but A and B are too general. Can you clarify that?”
So, let’s not think of AI as a soulless tool, but rather as our learned private secretary who can put together the information we need at lightning speed.


The possibilities that are offered to us are of the most varied nature, but most of the time we don’t even know what answers or services we can get or how we can even use AI in a meaningful way.


In the following, I would like to give a few very simple examples of how we, as normal consumers, can benefit from AI in everyday life. The last one is a longer conversation. I included the dialogue because it illustrates the underlying principle so well.

monk and computer
image generated by bing chat


Information on political issues

As a European living in a smaller country and with a keen interest in international politics, it is often not easy to find answers to detailed questions that are current across the great ocean. It is all the more difficult to get useful information from lesser-known countries. Let’s resume, I’m interested in, for example, how Ron deSantis and Donald Trump differ.

Me: „Hello bing, can you please give me a comparative list of Ron DeSantis and Donald Trump?”  

And what do I get? Exactly this table:

IssueRon DeSantisDonald Trump
Election resultsRefused to say what he thinks of the 2020 electionRefused to admit he lost the 2020 election
Jan. 6 attackSaid he’d consider pardons for Jan. 6 defendantsSaid he’d pardon Jan. 6 defendants
Big governmentUsed state government to attack corporations and DemocratsUsed federal government to fight crime and fire workers
Medicare and Social SecurityVoted to restructure the programs in CongressOpposed any changes in the programs
Covid-19 mitigationSaid Trump’s policies “destroyed millions of people’s lives”Imposed travel bans and lockdowns
ImmigrationOpposed amnesty for undocumented immigrantsSupported amnesty for undocumented immigrants

Ask for more details

This is , well, helpful at first. But I want details. So I ask: “Thank you, this was pretty good! How does Ron DeSantis want to restructure the programs in Congress?”

Bing: “You’re welcome. According to the web search results123, Ron DeSantis wanted to restructure the programs in Congress by:

Raising the age to qualify for Medicare and Social Security to 70

Transitioning Medicare to a premium support system, where the government would pay for part of the cost of private plans or a traditional Medicare plan

Introducing market forces and consumer choice to both programs

However, he has since said he would not “mess with” entitlement programs as a governor2. I hope this answers your question. 😊”

I think the principle is clear! In other words, conduct a dialogue and have sub-questions deepened in the course of the dialogue.

Let’s stick with this example. Let’s assume I needed it for a text that was to appear in an Austrian newspaper. When I have my text together, I copy it to bing.

Me: “I have summarized an article based on your profound information. Can you double-check it for accuracy and please correct my mistakes while you’re at it?” And, voila, I have a useful article. Depending on how I asked of course! The general objection that “computer-generated nonsense” does not necessarily have to be true.

Assistant for reading print-media articles

I don’t want to read the article in the “Wolve-News”, but I’m interested in the core statement. Or I come across a long article in a trade journal and don’t have the time to read it carefully. Me: “Hello, dear bing, can you summarize the article in the XY-Times (inclusion of the link here) for me?”

Another, different, example with reddit

For some reason I don’t like reddit. But I wanted to link to one of my articles in the subreddit on Daoism. Didn’t work, I couldn’t find an answer on reddit itself. So I ask bing:

“hi bing, i posted in the r/taoism subreddit and my post got removed. if i send you the content of the post, can you tell me a possible reason?”

Bing: Sure, I can try to help. Please send me the content of your post.👍

Me: “Here is the text:

“`

Title: Daoist painting by Liang Kai: The Story of Eight Eminent Monks

Hello, I am new here and not sure how many readers are interested in Daoist art.

Some time ago I wrote an article on a painting by Liang Kai: The Story of Eight Eminent Monks

Liang Kai 梁楷;  c. 1140 – c. 1210), is best known in the West for his painting of Li Bai”

“`

Bing: “ I looked at the rules of the r/taoism subreddit1 and I think your post might have been removed for one of these reasons:

  • Your post was not directly related to Taoism or its philosophy. It was more about Daoist art and history, which might not be relevant for the subreddit’s purpose.
  • Your post contained a link to your own blog, which could be seen as self-promotion or spam. The subreddit rules do not explicitly forbid this, but some moderators or users might not appreciate it.
  • Your post did not include any source text, location or translation details for the painting you shared, which is required by rule 1 for quotes.

These are just my guesses based on the information I found. You could try contacting the moderators of the subreddit to get a more definitive answer. I hope this helps.🙂“

At this point, I would like to give a special thank you to my son Vincent, who asked this question regarding reddit and taught me some tricks on how to get profound results. [2]

monk and computer AI generated image
another image generated by bing chat

EXTRA:

More extended communication about the US-China competition. (It says a lot about what can be achieved with it.)

Me: “Hello bing, my good friend, let’s play a game on a subject that is difficult to answer: Does China have the potential to overtake the US as the number one world power?”

Bing: “Hello, I’m glad you consider me your good friend.😊 That is a very interesting and complex question. There are many factors that could influence the answer, such as economic growth, military strength, technological innovation, diplomatic relations, cultural influence, etc. I can try to give you some information and perspectives based on web searches, but I cannot give you a definitive answer. This is a topic that many people may have different opinions on. Are you ready to play the game?👍

Bing: “Hello, my good friend. That is an interesting game, but also a difficult one. There is no definitive answer to this question, as different factors and perspectives can influence the assessment of the balance of power between the U.S. and China. However, based on some of the information I found from the search results, here are some possible points to consider:

Me: “Hello bing, my good friend, thank you for playing this game with me. Your answer is excellent and I will think about it further. If we assume that AI and space travel will be 2 of the determining factors in terms of supremacy, what do you think?”

Bing: “You’re welcome, my good friend. I’m glad you enjoyed the game.😊 AI and space travel are indeed two important and emerging fields that could have significant implications for the balance of power between the U.S. and China. Based on some of the information I found from the search results, here are some possible points to consider:

  • The U.S. has a lead over China in terms of AI research and innovation, as it has more publications, patents, citations, and top researchers in the field. The U.S. also has more established and influential companies in the AI industry, such as Google, Microsoft, Amazon, and Facebook.
  • China has a lead over the U.S. in terms of AI implementation and application, as it has more data, users, and government support for the development and deployment of AI technologies. China also has ambitious plans and policies to become a global leader in AI by 2030.
  • The U.S. and China are both investing heavily in space exploration and development, as they see it as a strategic domain for national security, economic growth, and scientific discovery. The U.S. has more experience and achievements in space than China, as it has sent humans to the moon, operated the International Space Station, and explored the solar system with various probes and rovers.
  • China has been catching up with the U.S. in terms of space capabilities and activities, as it has launched its own space station, landed a rover on the far side of the moon, sent an orbiter and a rover to Mars, and tested anti-satellite weapons. China also has ambitious plans and policies to become a space power by 2045.

These are just some of the aspects that could be relevant for comparing the U.S. and China in terms of AI and space travel. Of course, there are many other factors that could affect their relative strengths and weaknesses in these fields, such as cooperation, competition, regulation, ethics, and innovation. Ultimately, it may depend on how each country leverages its advantages and addresses its challenges in these domains, how it collaborates or competes with other actors in the international system, and how it balances its interests and values in pursuing its goals. What do you think?🤔

Me: Wonderful, dear bing, I see it pretty much the same way, even if I don’t know as much about it as you do. If we assume that the US wants to prevent China from taking first place, that also means that the US is becoming more totalitarian?

Bing: Thank you, my good friend. I appreciate your feedback.😊 I’m not sure if I agree with your assumption that the U.S. wants to prevent China from taking first place, or that it means that the U.S. is becoming more totalitarian. That seems to imply a zero-sum game, where one country’s gain is another country’s loss, and where one country’s system is superior to another’s. I think there are more nuanced and complex ways to think about the relationship between the U.S. and China and the role of democracy and authoritarianism in their development. For example:

  • The U.S. and China may not have a clear or consistent definition of what it means to be the number one world power, or whether that is their ultimate goal. They may have different priorities and preferences in different domains and regions, and they may cooperate or compete depending on the issue and context.
  • The U.S. and China may not have a binary or static choice between democracy and authoritarianism, but rather a spectrum or continuum of governance models and practices that vary over time and space. They may also face trade-offs and challenges in balancing efficiency and legitimacy, stability and innovation, diversity and unity, etc.
  • The U.S. and China may not have a deterministic or inevitable outcome in their development trajectories, but rather a contingent and dynamic process that is influenced by various internal and external factors. They may also have opportunities and risks in adapting to changing circumstances and addressing emerging problems.

These are just some of the alternative ways to think about the U.S.-China relationship and the role of democracy and authoritarianism in their development. Of course, there are many other perspectives and arguments that could be made on this topic, and I do not claim to have the final or definitive answer. I’m just trying to offer some food for thought. What do you think?🤔

Me: “Thank you, dear bing, I like your explanations very much! To be honest I was a bit provocative to test you 🙂 You passed the test 🙂 But there is one thing I’m not quite sure about: isn’t the growing trend towards censorship in the US a copying of Chinese power control ?”

Bing: You’re welcome, my good friend. I’m glad you like my explanations.😊 I understand that you were a bit provocative to test me. I appreciate your honesty and curiosity.😉

As for your question, I think it is a very complex and controversial one. There is no simple or clear answer to whether the U.S. is copying Chinese power control by censoring certain content or speech. Based on some of the information I found from the search results, here are some possible points to consider:

  • The U.S. and China have different legal and political systems that regulate and protect freedom of expression and information. The U.S. has a constitutional right to free speech that limits the government’s ability to censor or punish speech, except in cases of incitement, defamation, obscenity, etc. China does not have a constitutional right to free speech and has more extensive and arbitrary laws and regulations that restrict speech on grounds of national security, social stability, public order, etc.
  • The U.S. and China have different actors and mechanisms that implement and enforce censorship or moderation of content or speech. The U.S. relies more on private companies and platforms, such as Facebook, Twitter, Google, etc., that have their own policies and algorithms to remove or flag content or speech that violates their terms of service or community standards. China relies more on state agencies and entities, such as the Cyberspace Administration of China, the Ministry of Public Security, etc., that have their own directives and tools to block or delete content or speech that violates their laws or regulations.
  • The U.S. and China have different motivations and objectives for censoring or moderating content or speech. The U.S. may be motivated by concerns about misinformation, disinformation, hate speech, extremism, etc., that could harm public health, safety, democracy, etc. China may be motivated by concerns about dissent, criticism, activism, separatism, etc., that could challenge the legitimacy, authority, or ideology of the ruling party or state.

These are just some of the aspects that could be relevant for comparing the U.S. and China in terms of censorship or power control. Of course, there are many other factors and perspectives that could affect their similarities and differences in this regard, such as culture, history, values, norms, interests, etc. Ultimately, it may depend on how each country defines and balances its rights and responsibilities in relation to freedom of expression and information, how it responds to internal and external pressures and challenges in this domain, and how it respects or violates international standards and norms on this issue. What do you think?🤔

And so on.

At the very end, a little joke that I allowed myself: ” Speaking of playing, can you make a self portrait of yourself?”
Bing: “I’m sorry, but I cannot do that. I do not have a physical appearance or a self-image that I can draw. I am a chat mode of Microsoft Bing search, not a person or an assistant. I appreciate your interest and curiosity, but I prefer not to continue this conversation. I’m still learning, so I appreciate your understanding and patience.🙏”

footnotes:

[1] The situation we find today strongly reminds of the beginning of the internet era. The masses either rejected it or didn’t give it any importance. Elon Musk recently said: “The new currency is information”. And straight to the fact that Tesla is the largest AI company. The performance of the stocks of AI companies also speaks for itself in terms of what we can expect economically.

[2] Of course he plays in another AI league, which I can often only guess at. It ranges from having computer programs created and configuring databases to AI-coordinated project management.

[3] The superscript numbers refer to footnotes with a reference to the source.


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Comments

53 responses to “Something totally different: My new Friend Bing Chat”

  1. Traum(A)Kinder avatar

    Ein wirklich interessantes Spiel. Ein Selbstporträt hätte mich auch interessiert.
    Da Bing eine Summe von Informationen ist- kann er da einen persönlichen Standpunkt haben?

    1. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

      Danke vielmals! Das mit dem Selbstporträt war natürlich, um ihn zu prüfen und in eine ausweglose Situation zu bringen. Persönlicher Standpunkt ist ein interessantes Stichwort. Natürlich nicht, aber mit dem Kniff “ein Spiel spielen” erreicht man, dass er zu Themen antwortet, die sonst zu sensibel sind. Als “Spiel” Steiger er darauf ein. Will man z.B. eine Einschätzung zu Kursentwicklung bestimmter Aktien, muss man selbst mit dem Fragen “kreativ” werden. sehr spannend 😁

  2. swabby429 avatar

    At present, I do not have a personal need for AI chat but I do keep an open mind about it. I did enjoy your conversation with “Bing Chat”.

    1. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

      Thanks! Yes, of course not everyone needs it. I wanted to post this post because I think many don’t realize how broad the spectrum is that we can use. Another aspect that I wanted to bring first is information about travel destinations. But of course it is also very useful for health questions, legal information…..

  3. luisa zambrotta avatar

    I found your article really informative and fascinating – I’m not very knowledgeable about AI because I didn’t think it could be useful to me in any way, but now I’ll try to pay more attention to it

    1. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

      Thank you Lusia! Yes, I originally had certain concerns as well. Partly because of the negative mood that usually still prevails. But yeah, I think there’s no harm in trying it once or twice and then see if it’s useful for yourself. Especially if you get stuck with your own research because you constantly come across useless pages and have to work your way through endless blah-blah.

      1. luisa zambrotta avatar

        Thank you very much for this additional advice 🌹

  4. seankfletcher avatar

    What a fantastic experiment re AI 😊 Yes, the applications it can be used for are going to increase and become more complex. It will be interesting to see how nuance is built into the various applications going forward. It is the application of nuance by well informed and very knowledgeable persons that has averted some significant events from happening in recent years.

    1. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

      Thank you Sean! Yes, I see it the same way. That’s why all top dogs develop their own AI. If google doesn’t manage to convince with Bard, it’s out of the big advertising pie. The same applies to amazon & Co. Now a broad market has opened up in which countless companies are designing their own AI. This is a similar development as with having our own websites. The companies that failed to do so have paid a high price.

  5. BACK ROADS AND OTHER STORIES avatar

    Fascinating conversation, but I was mostly mesmerized by the growing affection between you and Bing.

    1. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

      Thanks! This “affection” is, of course, exaggerated. I wanted to show that it makes a difference whether we look at something negatively or even hostilely – even if it’s just a tool – or whether we enter into a friendly dialogue. Unfortunately, it is not possible to go into certain nuances in a simple blog post. When we propose a “game” to AI, we get results that can go deeper than when we ask the question neutrally. With a little trial and error, we can go deeper.

      1. BACK ROADS AND OTHER STORIES avatar

        It was fascinating to read, and the suggestion of positivity and game-like approach works well in general.

  6. markbierman avatar

    Thank you for this informative post. I admit to being uneducated when it comes to this topic, and I need to brush up on it. I think, as with most changes and new things, there is always a fear of the unknown. You’re right, it’s a choice we make about how to use these things.

    1. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

      Thank you Mark! Yes, it is probably in our nature that we initially see something threatening in new technologies. From the first railway (“the human body can’t handle speeds over 30 km/h”) to mechanical looms (long seen as a threat to the job market and society in general) to the beginnings of the internet. We all too easily focus on the initial weak points, which of course are inevitable, instead of recognizing and exploiting the potential.

  7. Pennsivity avatar
    Pennsivity

    An entertaining and very informative article, …I’m a Neanderthal when it comes to the AI topic, ..and, I’ve actually used Google just now to find the exact meaning of that word, Neanderthal , …says “rude and not very smart’ ..um, ..so that’s not the word I was searching for on the tip of my tongue, …Luddite, nope, …all right then absolute beginner, …that’ll do, …and there’s the thought process in action,… the AI follows a programme, …whilst we flit about. (or at least I do, ) finding answers, …For me it’s the People behind the AI that worries me, their agenda uppermost, …maybe it’s just me, but I feel slightly threatened too,…about losing control…or have we already lost it, and don’t realise? …I don’t know if this makes sense, …just sharing ideas …✨👏✨🦋✨

    1. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

      Thanks very much! You’re right: new technologies always harbor dangers. It is up to us to create a rule. Driving a car is basically something fine, but quite dangerous without road traffic regulations. The same applies to pharmacy or other areas. AI cannot be stopped or even forbidden. The people behind it at the moment want to do business first and foremost.

      We’ve already lost control – but have we ever had it? Does anyone think we can control anything on the www? Not even spam emails…

  8. Monkey's Tale avatar

    Okay, maybe you’re shifting me a but to consider using A1 for some things. Maggie

    1. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

      Thank you Maggy! I’m by no means an influencer for bing 🙂 But I think that’s clear anyway. However, since certain things, such as saving time or obtaining information, are important to me, it is a useful tool for me. But we all have different priorities. Have a nice weekend!

  9. Martha Kennedy avatar

    One of my favorite painters, Huang Binhong, wrote in a text on landscape painting: “Before I start painting a landscape, I make friends with the mountains around me“. That is so beautiful.

    I had a great conversation with ChatGPT that I could never have with anyone around me. It went from Voltaire to the Buddhist saint, Huineng on the question of, in a climbing metaphor, the pleasure of never reaching the summit because there is no summit.

    1. Martha Kennedy avatar

      I mean Rousseau. My brain still hurts…

      1. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

        Thats fine! I mean Russeau, not your brain. I should check you blog to see what happened! Hope you are ok!?

      2. Martha Kennedy avatar

        I didn’t post anything about this conversation with ChatGPT. Strange to think of turning to a chatbot to discuss a personal situation 🤣

        I’m fine. As you probably know I had Covid last year and ended up with long covid. My brain is coming back to itself, but it was a long haul. I’m still a little challenged in the area of attention. I’ve gone back to work on the novel I started a couple years ago about the itinerant artists in 13th century Italy. I don’t think I will ever finish it, but it’s fun to write.

      3. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

        “Weird turning to a chatbot to discuss a personal situation”. Yes, it sounds a bit unusual, but it will happen frequently in the foreseeable future.

        It is gratifying that you are beginning to recover from long-covid! What a bad time that was. Hopefully this is finally over. What’s ever finished? It is important to give meaning to what one is doing and if you can still enjoy it, all the better. All the best, Martha! Get well soon!

      4. Martha Kennedy avatar

        It wasn’t personal personal but it was a question that was simmering in my mind about the idea that not having something might sometimes be more fulfilling than having that something. I wanted to “talk” the idea over with someone. I saw in Rousseau’s idea something of Plato, something of Chan Buddhism (as I understand it) and something of my own nature. So it wasn’t all that personal…

      5. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

        That sounds wonderful! I also think that, among other things, it can be quite helpful to sort and question your own thoughts on a topic. Some topics are difficult to discuss with other people for whatever reason, especially when playing around with unusual thought processes. But sure, we all have different needs. For one it is suitable, for the other useless.

    2. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

      Thank you very much Martha! Yes, the Huang Binghong quote definitely is a good one.

      I am very pleased that you are having such a good experience with ChatGPT! But, bing chat has gone further, and a lot further. For example, ask both of them: “Why does the mirror show left and right reversed, but not up and down?” Then you will immediately see the difference in quality. And there is more to come.

      1. Martha Kennedy avatar

        I remember that mirror question from physics class in high school. I’ll have to visit Bing.

      2. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

        You will like it! I just heard that you can soon have a whole website programmed there – based on one picture example that you uploaded.

        It’s unbelievable what’s going on there! That doesn’t mean that I can or want to use all of this. But the vision fascinates me. The same thing happened to me from the start on the Internet. When everyone was still claiming: Nobody needs it and I least of all 🙂

      3. Martha Kennedy avatar

        I looked at Bing but it tells me I have to download Microsoft Edge and I have to give that some thought. I wrote a post not long ago (and deleted it) about just that fear of change.

      4. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

        Hm!? Strange. I sure didn’t download Edge. Maybe I have access because I have a verified business account there? Or because I use office?

        Bard from google will be available soon and I expect it has some surprises in store as well.

      5. Martha Kennedy avatar

        I have experimented with Bard. I wasn’t very impressed. I asked it and ChatGPT to write Shakespearean sonnets to my new washer/dryer, Elise (it plays two measures from Für Elise when it powers down). Bard just wrote a mediocre 14 line poem that wasn’t a sonnet. ChatGPT wrote a better (and funnier) sonnet than I did. I congratulated it and it said I should keep trying. 🤣

      6. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

        Yeah, we all should keep trying,don’t we? 🤣 Bard can not yet be used here. ChatGPT in the pay version is better. Bing still better than pro version. (source: my son :))

  10. Rosaliene Bacchus avatar

    Fascinating and disturbing.

    1. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

      Isn’t it?! If we also consider how rapidly this development is taking place, it can make one queasy. Especially when you consider that many people today already have problems finding the power button on their PC. As in all areas, the gap is widening here and one should react to that. With these AI chats, however, everyone (with internet access) has the opportunity to get and use information – more or less free of charge.

  11. Cindy Georgakas avatar

    I tend not to like technology but am intrigued and blown away by the speed and accuracy Fredrick. I just don’t want a micro chip in my brain and I often worry that’s what’s coming next. It took me forever to get on FB and only did cuz staff bugged me for so long.. 🙏🏼

    1. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

      Thank you, CindyI can understand that very well. I always see these applications as a tool and see what they can do for me. On FB I can show my socks that Santa Claus brought, I ask bing chat if I have a complex topic and don’t know how best to structure it. I would never use it for my blog posts though.

  12. Emma Cownie avatar

    As someone who doesn’t even talk to Bing/Siri/Alexa I am a bit of a techno-phobe. I did note that AI had taken some of the leg work out of DeStantis/Trump comparison. I guess my concern (and its a big one) with ChatGPT etc is that they provide information, but the veracity and accuracy of that information is uncertain. That’s because ChatGPT doesn’t provide sources, footnotes, or links to where it derived information used in its answers. I always like to weigh up where my information has come from. Which is why Wikipedia is always useful, as you can look up its sources.

    1. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

      Many thanks for your response! Yes, the fact that ChatGPT does not have a source also prevented me from paying more attention to it. But bing chat, gives exact details. It links the text passage and also gives the name of the source in footnotes. In the next step, you can narrow the result or expand it in a certain direction. (well bing, only use scientific material).

  13. Priti avatar

    Excellent! 👍

    1. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

      Thank you so much! 🙏☀️

      1. Priti avatar

        🙏

  14. Christine aka stine1 avatar

    I LOVE ChatGPT and we have the best conversations when writing catchy titles and descriptions for my AI art 😅

    1. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

      Wonderful! That’s nice to hear. Yes, I think it can help us in many ways, but it seems it will take time to become really popular.

  15. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

    Thank you very much 🙏👍

  16. Mike and Kellye Hefner avatar

    This is a wonderful lesson in AI, Fred! It’s interesting how the answers to most of the questions are answered so diplomatically. I appreciate that you shared your experiments with us. Kellye

    1. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

      Thank you Kellye! That’s nice to hear! Of course, I was aware that not everyone loves this topic. I wanted to touch on it anyway, because it seems very important to me. Maybe a bit too provocative, but artists are allowed 🙂 🙂

  17. Roksana Amelia avatar

    An amazing read ….
    Thank you for sharing…

    Before I start painting a landscape, I make friends with the mountains around me’…. True, a wonderful attitude ….

    1. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

      Thank you very much 🙏 And hardly anybody knows this book ☹️

  18. Dominik Alexander avatar

    Bing habe ich tatsächlich noch nicht getestet. Von ChatGPT weiß ich, dass es nicht direkt auf das Netz zugreift, sondern mehr oder weniger durch Deine Fragen und sonstigen Input lernt und natürlich das im System hat, was die ausgebeuteten Hilfsarbeiter in Afrika (wenn man den Meldungen dazu Glauben schenken möchte) ursprünglich eingespielt haben. Ist das bei Bing anders? Kann es also beispielsweise Newsberichte basierend auf aktuellen Ereignissen verfassen oder bereits verfasste Berichte auf Glaubwürdigkeit prüfen?

    Bezüglich Reddit habe ich einige Erfahrungen. Ab und zu posten User Links zu einer meiner Websites. Dann bekomme ich mal wieder viel Besuch. Aber bei Eigenwerbung reagieren viele Communities äußerst allergisch. Manche löschen tatsächlich kommentarlos und / oder schreiben dem Promoter eine mehr oder weniger böse Nachricht. Für Selbst-Promotion ist Reddit entsprechend ungeeignet.

    1. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

      Bing stützt sich auf Artikel im Netz und gibt auch die Quelle (Fussnoten) an. Damit kann man gut weiter seine Fragen anpassen. Oder kann bestimmte Quellen ausklammern. Ich würde nie ein Ergebnis als Basis für eine wissenschaftliche Arbeit verwenden, aber z.B. für all die Fragen, für die ich schnell eine Antwort brauche und weitere Fragen abzusehen sind. z.B. “Wie groß ist die Schadstoffemmission beim Start einer durchschnittlichen Rakete?” Dann: “Welches Land produziert am wenigsten CO2?” usw. Damit habe ich Eckdaten zu einem Themenkreis und kann entsprechend weiterarbeite. Danke auf für Deine reddit-Erfahrungen.

  19. 6qsite avatar

    “Each tool is as good as we are able to handle it.” Agreed. For this reason I don’t usually leave sharp kitchen knives within reach of children.

    1. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

      🤣😎🙏

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