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About Jack

And the Joys of the Internet

We have lived through so many changes that it is easy to take them for granted. Yet I am still delighted by what the internet can make possible, especially the unexpected connections.

Today I want to tell you about my friend Jack, whom I have never met in person. The story began like this.

I had uploaded a short video introducing my calligraphy. It had already led to book projects. Then an email arrived with three stills from the video and a question: were those works for sale? Having received a few scam enquiries before, I was briefly suspicious. Then I noticed the sender: Jack Dorner, an ‘old friend’. How had that happened?

By then I had been selling art and collectibles online for more than twenty years, including antique chromolithographs. Jack had bought perhaps twenty over the years. Eventually we began corresponding in more detail, and he showed me what he was making with them. I was delighted: highly original shower-curtain designs and other decorative work. He also makes finials.

The Calligraphy Project

Now he was interested in my calligraphy. He kindly sent a photograph after the first work had been framed. The frame gives it room and shows it beautifully.

The other works of mine are still being framed, he says. Soon after, the next one was finished and it looks good too.

The Collaboration

Jack is an artist too, whatever his modest disclaimers. His work has a cool elegance, quite different from my own approach. He asked whether I would consider adding calligraphy to one of his pieces. He would send the originals, which I could keep; he wanted a copy of the result. The prospect of bringing these different approaches together appealed to me, and I accepted.

I did not want to spoil a colleague’s work by rushing in. I began by printing copies and using them for studies.


The first attempt looks like this. I’m not very enthusiastic about it myself, but Jack seems very pleased.

I then asked whether I could take some of his other work in a different direction. Again, he was enthusiastic. I deliberately chose a difficult starting point: a stark black-and-white composition whose forms seemed as fixed as rock.

These were my first experiments.

I had made only four or five studies at this point. They were playful experiments; I did not yet know where they might lead. The first came about while I was listening to Black Market by Weather Report.

A Trio

I had also been working with Wolfgang Kubin. Jack and Wolfgang were both seventy-seven at the time of this post, and both very productive. I liked the thought of bringing these friendships into one project, so I made a cover proposal for Kubin’s book about Li Bai using one of our experiments.

These were still tentative steps. To keep the exchange moving, I sent the first work back to Jack so he could continue. If he reached an impasse, he could send it back and I would take another turn. A work in progress, in the most literal sense.

I could not yet judge what would come of it, but I was glad to have tried. Exchange across continents has always mattered to me. Here it had become something we could pass back and forth, adding to it without quite knowing where it would end.


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34 responses to “About Jack”

  1. klotylda avatar

    Bevor man es nicht versucht hat, wird man nicht wissen, ob es sich gelohnt hat.

    1. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

      Richtig, und manchmal stellt sich die Intuition erst während des Tuns ein.

  2. Cindy Georgakas avatar

    fascinating… thanks for sharing! ❣️

    1. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

      Thank you very much! The joy of old sods 🙂 Enjoy your weekend!

      1. Cindy Georgakas avatar

        You’re so welcome. Oh yes indeed! ❣️

      2. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

        ❣️❣️❣️

  3. swabby429 avatar

    Trial and error along with collaboration is an amazing process. I’m sure your efforts will pan out well.

    1. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

      There was a time when I often met up with painter friends and we painted together. One started, then the next continued, and then the next. Maybe nothing great ever came out of it, but somehow it helped everyone – and was fun. And cooperation always affects you in one way or another.

      1. swabby429 avatar

        This might be called artistic brainstorming.

  4. The Sicilian Storyteller avatar

    I love the birds. They remind me of wallpaper we had put up on one large wall of our sunroom. What a happy room that was with all my beautiful plants and birds perching on the windowsills outside to converse with the bird wallpaper inside! 🕊️

    1. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

      I can imagine. As so often it’s those little things that leave such deep impressions and gain a solid place in our memory.

  5. Ashley avatar

    An exciting collaboration. Art should not stand still. This might keep you busier than expected!

    1. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

      Thanks very much! Yes, you always have to look for new ways of expression. Especially in old age you often run the risk of “ossifying” if you don’t move. Best regards from Vienna!

  6. Rosaliene Bacchus avatar

    How amazing that you and Jack are collaborating in creating new artistic expressions! Your contributions have not only changed the visual effects, but also added new meaning to the initial work. Bravo to you both.

    1. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

      Thank you so much for your support! Let’s see what transpires. In any case, a symbolic level has come into play that means a lot to me.

  7. sandyroybessandbugzy avatar

    So interesting to find someone using your art work and then create together. Fascinating story of creativity.

    1. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

      Thank you very much! It’s not that often that different artist work on one “painting”, probably for good reasons but I think it is worth a try.

  8. ee. avatar

    Unbearbeitet – sehr “brutale” Werke, meines Empfindens nach.

    1. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

      Danke schoen! Grundsätzlich liegt der Reiz in der Sache darin, das “Brutale” mit mehr Malerischem zu verbinden, sodass etwas entsteht, das den Flair von Art Brut hat. Mal sehen, ob dabei was rauskommt. Ich wollte einmal was zeigen, das ganz am Anfang einer Entwicklung steht.

  9. Renee Espriu avatar

    I do believe collaborations of different kinds can bring about some wonderful things. Certainly, both of these collaborations will turn into something ‘more’. I look forward to seeing what happens along these lines.

    1. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

      Thank you very much, Renee, for you kind words! Of course, I have already experienced some types of collaboration and they are always fruitful – and first of all exciting 🙂

  10. Migy avatar

    Wow amazing! Thank you for sharing this story and your artworks. I really enjoyed reading your post. Have a wonderful week! 🙂

    1. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

      Thank you very much for your kind words! A very happy week to you too! 🙂

  11. Edith avatar

    Eine sehr gute Win win-Situation finde ich. Und dass daraus eine Freundschaft erwächst, ist dann noch viel besser.
    Mit gefällt, was du zeigst, was daraus entstanden ist – für ihn, für dich.
    Man kann nur gewinnen!!!
    Einen feinen Tag für dich, lieber Friedrich
    gewünscht von mir. <3

    1. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

      Danke, liebe Edith! Ab einem gewissen Alter wird es immer schwieriger, Leute zu treffen, die “auf der gleichen Welle schwimmen”. Zumindest was die Kunst betrifft.

      Dir auch einen feinen Tag – mit den beruehmten, Original-Sonnenstrahlen aus Wien 🙂 Die mit dem Walzerklang…

      1. Edith avatar

        So ist es, lieber Friedrich…. doch manchmal ist es auch ein wenig anders. Schau, ich habe dich hier getroffen und es ist, als ob ich dich schon lange kennen würde…
        Schunkelnde Grüße zurück zu dir…

  12. Jack Dorner avatar
    Jack Dorner

    Friedrich – Im so pleased – and very proud – to be working with you. What you created with my pieces in the background is really very fulfilling for me. Its gives me great pride that we have worked together and that you have used my pieces to work with and created

    something totally new and with such variety and aesthetic effect. Bravo for what you have accomplished. Jack

    1. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

      Thanks Jack, the joy is all mine! At our age it is rather rare to meet extraordinary people like you and even more rarely do artistic collaborations result from this. Your kind words encourage me to finally create something more substential. But we are young (at heart) and patient 🙂

    2. Judy Cramer Lucker avatar
      Judy Cramer Lucker

      Hi Jack, This is such an interesting story. I really enjoyed reading it and seeing some of your artwork. I am very curious to find out if we ever met when I went to St. Joe’s so many years ago. Did you go to the Mount in the 60’s? If you’re the right Jack Dorner, I would love to hear from you again.

      1. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

        That sounds wonderful, Judy! I have forwarded your lines to Jack. That would be a wonderful thing if you could get in touch again. Kind regards, Friedrich

  13. vermavkv avatar

    Very nice.

    1. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

      Thank you very much!

  14. Dominik Alexander avatar

    What a wonderful collaboration. And not just that. This story also tells a lot about the positive possibilities that the world wide web is able to offer. Thanks for sharing, Friedrich 🙂

    1. Zettl Fine Arts avatar

      Thank you very much, Dominik!

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